SEO Fundamentals Room – Holiday Edition
Last week in Marketing Club – SEO Fundamentals Room Dec 28, 2021, Joshua opened the room for questions. The first question came from him to moderators:
00:08:00 Joshua to moderators
1)”What are some changes in SEO, and do you have any advice for 2022?”
1)”What are some changes in SEO, and do you have any advice for 2022?”
00:08:34 Firuze Gokce
Google Core Web Vitals Update
Google’s Core Web Vitals update had heavily occupied the headlines since May of 2020 because it’s a densely debated subject that everybody was nervous about what would happen. Finally, Google rolled out the CWV update between June and July. Even though it was not impacted SERPs to a great extent, CWV continues to be a valid concern. In 2022 one of Google’s goals is to provide a better search experience for the users. Thus, page speed and related parameters like Largest Contentful Paint (LCP), First Input Delay (FID), and Cumulative Layout Shift (CLP) are still at the core of the discussions. (If you would like to check out your page speed, click here Google Search Console is also a great FREE tool to check out your Core Web Vitals.
Therefore, designing your website with the user in mind is critical. Think about what kind of a search experience you are going to provide. It’s common sense that people do not wait for pages to upload for a long time. Instead, they like to consume the pages that upload fast enough to spend their limited time efficiently. Thus, put your users first and create pages that upload and interact fast enough during the users’ journey. Before selecting a WordPress theme, run tests to see which WordPress theme will better perform.
00:11:44 Karin Tierney
Rich Results and Google Web Stories
Moving forward to 2022, Rich Markup and Rich Results will be more attainable for people who don’t know how to code. Google is getting more visual with Google Web Stories (, which will bring a lot of untapped opportunities for small business owners.
00:13:21 Tonya Burge
Google My Business has changed to Google Business Profile (GBP)
In terms of Local SEO, there was a massive update by Google. They changed the “Google My Business” to “Google Business Profile” . With this update, Google provided a lot of functionality and accessibility to small businesses. Making an update on your profile gets easier by Google allowing you to make changes directly from the search page results rather than going to the backend of an app or dashboard.
00:14:55 Jon Muranko
How to create authoritative content?
His advice is to double down the authoritative content. Jon improved the authoritative content for his clients last year. Without getting any links, they received terrific results. So, what is authoritative content? Think of that as you are a reporter, and you don’t have to be an expert. Try to answer any questions with regards to your topic. Then discuss all the niche subjects regarding your case. Also, cover the history of the subject matter. Another secret sauce that John gives is: Using the power of internal linking by creating anchor keywords and texts. For example, you have a food blog. In one of the posts, you talk about various cakes, including chocolate cake. If you have a particular page for a chocolate cake recipe, you can use “chocolate cake” as your anchor text and link that “chocolate cake anchor text” with your chocolate cake recipe page. You are going to be surprised by the results.
Karin also added: If you want to get ranked on one of your keywords, create content that talks about your keyword and make that keyword an anchor text. Link that anchor text with the page that is talking about your keyword.
00:18:30 Joshua Monge
Google Site kit Plugin by Google
Google Site Kit by Google is a great plugin. It allows you to reach out to your Google Search Console, Google Analytics, Page Speed Insights, Google Tags Manager and Google Ad Platform. Google Site Kit seems to replace a couple of plugins because it covers a lot of the functionality of other plugins.
00:19:40 Jon Muranko
Google Search Console Keyword Discovery with Performance Tab
Another secret sauce is to get in Google Search Console (GSC). First, login into GSC . If you don’t know how to set up Google Search Console, you can Google it and find the necessary instructions. When you open up your Search Console Dashboard, Go and click on the “Performance” tab at the left side of the menu. You’ll get another window showing which queries (keywords) people use to come to your website. You’ll also find Countries, Devices, Search Appearance, Clicks and Impressions. You can export the keywords, clicks and impressions data to a Google sheet or excel file. This allows you to analyze your keywords and see which ones drive the traffic. You also find it helpful to discover which keywords you need to optimize for your content.


00:22:20 Firuze Gokce
Different Auditing Methods used for SEO
Another secret sauce that we like to share is last week’s SEO Fundamentals Room. We invited people to share their websites for an audit during our session. All the Mods put their best effort to help those asking for an Audit. Every mode shared their secret recipes (secret sauce) for auditing a website. For that reason, I highly recommend checking last week’s significant takeaways. Every Mod had dropped a gem that you could not find it anywhere else.
00:22:20 Karin Tierney
Significance of Title and Descriptions in SEO
Your site’s Titles and Descriptions are super important. If your site is lacking those, it will be a problem. Therefore, check out whether each page on your website has a unique title and description. Karin has just worked with a client with 1400 pages with no title and description. After placing titles and descriptions, that website has seen over 80% improvement in Click-Through Rates (CTR). Karin has also explained her strategy: Unfortunately, Google is slow in adapting to changes, and we cannot control this process, but what we can control is the titles and descriptions of our website. Even though there may be too many pages that you need to add unique titles and descriptions, it’s worth it because you can see the positive outcomes quickly.
2) 00:25:00 Audience Question:
I’m confused about Schema. I don’t know which Schema to use on the home page, which Schema to use on other pages? Can you elaborate on Schema types and share any tools I can use?
00:25:30 Karin Tierney
How to use Schema Markup
Here is how to understand what Schema to use: Go to your page and type all the nouns that you can find on your page, such as:
- Is it an organization? Then it’s an organization schema https://schema.org/Organization
- Is it a place? It’s a place schema https://schema.org/Place
- Is it a personal page? Then it’s person schema https://schema.org/Person
- Is it an event? Then it’s an event schema https://schema.org/Event
- Is it a city? Then it’s city schema https://schema.org/City
The good part is that you can use multiple schemas for one page as long as the schema types are relevant.
Rankmath Schema allows you to do Schema, but Schema Pro is the one to use if you are looking for some higher-level schema.
00:26:56 Tonya Burge:
Implementing Schema Correctly
Tonya always looks at the page’s content and decides what schema types to use. She finds Schema Pro very useful. This tool guides you through the process and automates schema generation. Schema Pro also helps you fill the critical areas for making your Schema correct. It also provides you with a testing tool. Once you have your Schema set up on your page, it tests it directly to ensure that the Schema is implemented correctly.
00:27:56 Joshua Monge
Yoast Plugin for Schema in WordPress
Joshua recommends having a Yoast plugin that enables you to set up schemas for every page and tags your about page and product pages if you are a WordPress user.
3) Do you have any predictions for SEO in 2022?
00:30:10 Firuze Gokce Expects
- Google algorithm updates centre around user experience and page experience
- More intensity around search intent and the matching customer journey
- More emphasis on image search
00:33:08 Tonya Burge expects
Google is going to reinforce page experience. So, make sure that your content matches what the user is searching for. It might be informational content; it might be transactional content, or it might be navigational content.
Once they get to that website, ensure that your site’s page speed is within Google’s limits. Besides, you also need to create the matching content for the user intent and your site’s content is developed by writers who have authority. The generic type of basic content is not ranking anymore. Therefore’ always create high-quality content.
I hope Google will not run updates as intense as in 2021.
00:34:25 Karin Tierney Expects
Small business or non-tech business owners will use more Google Business Profile because it’s easier to access, create a profile and interact with the searchers.
00:37:09 Joshua Expects
In conclusion, we agree that Google will focus on better content and better page experience. Google also tests search results based on videos and time stamping based on voice components.
00:38:20 Ek Expects
Google Search and Google Ad platforms are converging with each other more than ever. She also wanted to answer the question about Schema. The purpose is always to create pages as humanly as possible for a great user experience. Besides, the increasing role of Schema is helping Google bots to understand what kind of a page it is.
00:40:21 Joshua Monge
Writing for Human Beings and Optimizing for Machines
SEO is not one size fits for all types solution. SEO is composed of different components harmonically working together. Every site has a different story and necessitates different SEO solutions. Understanding the tactics and mechanics and distinguishing between human beings and machines is critical for successful SEO. Human beings and machines constantly interact with each other. As SEO Fundamentals Room, we all agree that “Writing for the human beings and optimizing for machines” is the right way to go. There is also a very delicate balance among diverse optimization techniques. Suppose you focus too much on technical or focus too much on content for the sake of content creation (generic or irrelevant content to get ranked). In that case, you miss user experience or Technical SEO. Therefore, we always think SEO is both an art and science.
00:42:10 Karin Tierney
Restructuring the SEO Strategy
Karin shared her experience in 2007. The time when she first started as an SEO. She was writing precisely 500 words and creating content for only bots. It does not take too long for her to understand that although she was technically doing everything the right way, she could not make money enough, and she got a meager conversion rate. Since then, she has restructured her SEO strategy and started writing for people and optimizing the bots. Today all of her clients are fond of working with her because she generates excellent results.
00:43:06 Firuze Gokce
Holistic SEO
SEO continues to evolve, and we better understand its value and role in our marketing stack. SEO touches almost every aspect of marketing. The audience, branding, content marketing, technical SEO, UI/UX design and coding, social media, PR and analytics. This comprehension brings a holistic approach to SEO which compliments and empowers every marketing channel and brings successful results.
00:44:26 Joshua Monge
Integrate Your SEO into a Broader Marketing Strategy
Joshua’s suggestion is to integrate SEO into a broader marketing strategy. SEO is also a great feedback provider for marketers to understand what is missing or what’s working.
00:48:15 Question from the Audience
4) Google introduced “Google Business Messages” for Google Business Profile listings and provided a chat button. Do you think that it will be effective for SEO?
Here is the definition of Google Business Messages: Google’s Business Messages is a mobile conversational channel that combines entry points on Google Maps, Search, and brand websites to create rich, asynchronous messaging experiences. If you want to learn more, click here
00:48:49 Tonya Burge
Google Business Messaging
When done correctly, it has a significant positive impact on businesses. However, there are some problems concerning tracking by Google. One of her clients uses Google messaging and receives increasing leads from the Business Messaging System. She recommends utilizing it. Besides, she advises taking care of Google Business Profile and optimizing it because filling out the blank areas in GBP is not enough for complete optimization. You need to optimize your listing on GBP intentionally.
00:50:45 Karin Tierney
Karin also is optimistic about it. This gives an excellent opportunity for businesses with no website by getting them listed on Google Business Profile. However, you should quickly respond to customer calls using the Google Business Messaging tool. Otherwise, Google will take away this tool from those businesses. One of her clients has just about to lose the messaging tool.
00:53:29 Question by the Audience
For Ryan, the conversational journey by using Google Business Messaging provides an excellent opportunity to understand customer journey data points. Ryan is working in Automation and observing what is happening in the restaurants’ space. Google Business Messaging has increased the traffic to their GBP listing while reducing the website traffic. So how can we explain this phenomenon:
5) Is traditional SEO, optimizing and ranking your site, still desirable? Or Will rising GBP listing traffic be preferable instead of higher rankings in SERPs?
00:54:19 Joshua Monge
Awareness provided by GBP is a good thing, but as the Mod’s in this room, we all think having an optimized website and focusing on the conversions are our priorities. However, we should consider all the facets of marketing and marketing tools and construct strategies by compounding every element.
00:55:19 Tonya Burge
The critical part is analytics. You should check your data from different sources like GBP or organic search results. Then analyze them to discover what kind of conversions you have or from which channels conversions are coming. GBP is also a part of search engine optimization layers in the overall picture. So, your marketing strategy should be a comprehensive and cohesive framework covering multiple traffic channels. Tonya has seen a lot of success with her clients.
00:56:56 Renee BIgelow
She wanted to add that the “SEO” keyword has had an upward trend since the pandemic. Especially more and more businesses go online because of the pandemic, which creates a lot of interest in SEO. Check out this goggle trends graphic.
We’ll be here in the same room, at the same time next week. We are looking forward to seeing you.

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SEO Fundamentals Room
Marketing Club in ClubHouse
Every Tuesday at 8 am Pacific Time
https://www.clubhouse.com/event/PQ48lGnw
Date: Dec 28, 2021
Theme: Holiday Edition – Expectations in SEO for 2022
Next Chat: Every Tuesday at 8 am PST
Moderators:
Karin Tierney: https://alzina.marketing/
Joshua Monge/ https://waymakerseo.com/
Tonya Burge http://www.YourMarketingLady.com


